Aspartame

topic posted Sat, April 29, 2006 - 7:13 AM by  Mr. M
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  • Re: Aspartame

    Fri, December 5, 2008 - 9:33 PM
    Agreed. I avoid it as if it is poison. If you must have something sweet, make sure it is a natural sweet. Sugar, honey, stevia or agave to name a few.

    Any chemical sweetener should be avoided, but aspartame especially, as if your life depended on it!
    • Re: Aspartame

      Fri, December 5, 2008 - 9:45 PM
      It's total poison. I can't believe how many people still don't know about it. It's a trip. Theyre like "What. I don't drink that much diet coke." Why would you rationalize consuming poison? I do with alcohol. But hey, that's a little different. I think. ( Scratches chin & looks in mirror. ) Hmm. If they put aspartame in beer I most certainly would not drink it though. I'd force myself to like pot again or something. lol NO ASSpartame!!! ASPARTAME KILLS!!!
      • Re: Aspartame

        Sat, December 6, 2008 - 10:58 AM
        hmm. thanks for reminding me again..

        for myself that isnt even an issue. I like wholefood, grow my own organic veg and love to eat low sugar.
        I even had a 0 sugar diet, (including no mustard, ketchup or pickles etc containing sugar, nor honey which is 98% sugar, nor cane syrup etc..) and I realised then how addictive sugar is.
        If you are totally sugar free for say, a month, if you then walk past a bakery it smells really sickening,- an overwhelming whoft of icky sweetness..
        If you dont believe me, try it.

        but its really hard and unsociable to have such a diet, so I eat sugars again.. I just dont add sugar- if I can help it.

        But giving my daughter the joy and satisfaction of a commercial fun sweet, (without ruining her blood sugar or her teeth), I have to resort to artificially sweetened things..
        But actually she doesnt get many of those either.. so I hope a small amount can be tolerated..

        (geese, it hard being a good mom!)
        • Re: Aspartame

          Sun, December 7, 2008 - 3:08 PM
          Aspartame is very dangerous and killed the rats in a study by giving them tumours, some of them cancerous.
          However, it was deemed safe for humans.

          Now, connect the dots!
          • Re: Aspartame

            Sun, December 7, 2008 - 5:43 PM
            Buh dump bump!

            Cha cha chah!!!
            • Re: Aspartame

              Sun, December 7, 2008 - 8:17 PM
              See what it does!
              • Re: Aspartame

                Mon, December 8, 2008 - 10:37 AM
                well the eniad,- unfortunately it isnt that simple.

                a) 47,8% of all statistics are made up on the spot..
                b) studies are manipulated and interpreted to show what you want them to show..
                c) we are not rats

                but give all that,- I am always in favour of the non-manmade food or food supplement,- so I am comfortable to stay away. but scientifically speaking, you can find any number of study to demonstrate any number of things.. and rarely do you hear of studies announcing that their suspicions were unfounded (and always check who is sponsoring the trials)
                • Re: Aspartame

                  Mon, December 8, 2008 - 2:43 PM
                  Mindy,

                  > but scientifically speaking, you can find any number of study to demonstrate any number of things..
                  > and rarely do you hear of studies announcing that their suspicions were unfounded (and always
                  > check who is sponsoring the trials)

                  All true enough. But, aspartame really *IS* worse than many other artificial sweeteners.

                  If you WILL have sweets, AREN'T satisified with the natural alternatives, and avoiding sugar is important to you, try "Splenda" and some of the other sugar cognates (maltitol, etc). They seem to be self-limiting, in that when you overindulge you get the runs before you get any other worse problems...


                  - Steve
              • Re: Aspartame

                Wed, December 10, 2008 - 8:18 AM
                I know aspertame is no good.
                But I was thinking about when I had pet rats and one of them got a tumor, I was told that rats are tumor factories! It makes me wonder if using them is really a good idea to prove something causes cancer......like when they test products in rabbits eyes while rabbits can't produce tears.......or they feed stuff to rats even though rats can't vomit.........
                As someone else stated, we are not rats!

                Aspertame just tastes bad to me. I avoid foods that remind me of toilet bowl cleaner......
    • Re: Aspartame

      Mon, December 8, 2008 - 2:56 PM

      ... a natural sweet. Sugar, honey, stevia or agave to name a few.
      ... Any chemical sweetener should be avoided, but aspartame especially, as if your life depended on it!

      Stevia *IS* a chemical sweetener.

      That is, the stevia herb has chemicals in it (stevioside & rebaudioside, neither one a sugar) that trigger our tongue's sweet-receptors. Personally, I don't trust such chemicals, however "natural" they are.

      Remember: cyanide and asbestos are ALSO "natural" products!

      Add to that the fact that stevioside & rebaudioside are *hundreds* of times sweeter than sugars are... and you're looking at something that, frankly, gives me the heebie-jeebies when I think about ingesting it... or feeding it to children!


      - Steve

      • Re: Aspartame

        Mon, December 8, 2008 - 3:08 PM
        Stevia comes from an herb, though. Properly used one uses only a tiny portion compared to sugar. The individual packets stevia sometimes comes in (looking like sugar packets) has way too much in it, true.

        There have been numerous studies that show that aspartame is very risky. Especially when consumed regularly like in sodas. If you drink diet soda every day, and especially more than one in a day I believe it is an unnecessary risk.

        Sugar is addictive, true, but in small quantities it is less destructive than aspartame. Best option, don't drink soda, and certainly don't give it to your children.

        Diet soda fans always find excuses it seems when told the dangers of aspartame.

        "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink."
        • Re: Aspartame

          Mon, December 8, 2008 - 4:34 PM
          I am very aware of the bias in 'scientific' studies where university research is funded by companies who want to promote their products and are willing to support research to this end.

          In Canada, the government uses research done by the food industry to found its own daily food requirement (the great food groups) for exemple, saying that it lacks the fund the support its own research. At least that is what we were told several years ago.
          I am mentioning Canada because I notice what is going on around me. I am sure there is a lot of the same thing in the USA or your country that you could share here or under another thread.
          So the diary industry is overrepresented locally these days while people who have researched nutrition outside the mainline are aware that too much dairy products causes mucus. That does not even address question of the contents of animal feed...etc

          Aspartame was shoed in because people (we were told) were looking for quick get slim products that provided a sweet taste without the calories but I think that it turned out to be another scam from the diet industry.
          People who consume diet products may not eat less and may even consume more calories than if they were consuming regular food, sometimes falsely comforted by the idea that they are spared calories.

          That is a side issue to the actual danger of aspartame.
        • Re: Aspartame

          Wed, December 10, 2008 - 3:26 PM

          > Stevia comes from an herb, though.

          Ummm. So does hemlock. And it's famous STILL,
          after 2500 years, as the poison that killed Socrates...

          "Coming from an herb" is NO guarantee of safety,
          or appropriateness of feeding it to children!


          - Steve
          • Re: Aspartame

            Fri, December 12, 2008 - 9:03 PM
            I rarely consume stevia. Perhaps two or three times a year, even though I have some on hand. I'm just not one to add extra sweetener to things.

            I have heard, though, that the FDA has not approved stevia for use as a sweetener and that it must be bought for other reasons, herbal uses for example (even though it comes in it's sugary form, not as a leaf or something). What I've heard regarding this is that it's likely the FDA is trying to protect the U.S. sugar industry and the artificial sweetener industry. That is the main reason it hasn't been approved. Stevia is considered safe by other countries.
            • Re: Aspartame

              Sun, December 14, 2008 - 7:49 AM
              I use golden cane sugar organic for the rare times that I get a sweet tooth.
              I am part of a buying group and we order directly from a supplier at bottom price.

              You may be right about stevia.

              Cane is still cane and it has its powerful sales network. White sugar is poisonous for the health and one of the reason people are unwell all the time...keep them sickly, ready for drone work and unable to think for themselves.

              I remember this movie making the rounds and depicting the slavery that Haitian were put through in order to produce stuff that make us sick here.
              It was called Canne Amère and has been translated into Bitter Cane

              www.imdb.com/title/tt0123630/plotsummary
              • Re: Aspartame

                Mon, December 15, 2008 - 12:03 AM
                Regardless of what the studies do or do not say, personal experience tells me that Aspartame is unhealth. I had chronic headaches for years, having to take pain killers daily to get through my day. Due to a shortness of cash I switched from diet coke to coffee (which I could brew at home) for my caffiene fix - that was the only change I made in my life at that time, and suddenly ALL my headaches went away. I have never eaten it again, and never had an unexplained headache since.
                • Re: Aspartame

                  Tue, December 16, 2008 - 8:17 PM
                  Also watch out for high frutose corn syrup which is in so many things that you wouldn't expect it to be in.
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                    Re: Aspartame

                    Tue, December 16, 2008 - 9:08 PM
                    And the hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated dead foods. You are what you eat. If what you eat is dead, you will be dead. : )

                    Happy thoughts. La la la!!!

                    Lucky I eat enough to hang in there. Otherwise I'd be a walking & breathing bottle of beer & whiskey. Hmm. I would piss myself into the gutter. You gotta eat. Even if youre an alcoholic or drug addict. It makes what you eat even more important.
                    • Re: Aspartame

                      Wed, December 17, 2008 - 6:39 AM
                      Aspartame simply felt bad when I ate it so I stopped.
                      I am very lucky that I grew up (mostly) on health food so my body is still aware.

                      There is a simple motto to follow here: eat like the peasants.

                      Unprocessed food is less packaged and often less expensive. You need recipes and there are good ones around.
                      if you think you are getting away by buying processed food in bulk, you are not. because he cost of a permanent disease and costly operation factored in the bill and that does not count the general bad feeling that these food make us feel and that some people may not even discern.

                      Even if you are poor, you can prioritize.
                      You eat less when you eat healthy food and people eat for comfort of the wrong kind.
                      Just head for the hills - even in the city. No need to pay a gym. The cheap ones are in basements anyway and you need to breathe. It's better outside.
                      Physical activity release natural endorphins: feel good brain juice.

                      However, they say it is easier to make a revolution that to change the people's eating habit.
                      But not when the person wants to change. Start slowly and implement.

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